Agenda a Chofnodion

1.1        The Chair welcomed Members and members of the public.

1.2 Apologies had been received from Aled Roberts and Gwyn Price.

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PAC(4) 10-13 Papur 2 – Cyngor gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru ar ymateb Llywodraeth Cymru

PAC(4) 10-13 Papur 3 -  Y wybodaeth ddiweddaraf gan Lywodraeth Cymru am Safon Ansawdd Tai Cymru - 11 Gorffennaf 2013

PAC(4) 10-13 Papur 4 – Gohebiaeth gan Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru ar y cynnydd wrth weithredu Safon Ansawdd Tai Cymru – 9 Tachwedd 2012

PAC(4) 10-13 Papur 5 -  Y wybodaeth ddiweddaraf gan Lywodraeth Cymru am Safon Ansawdd Tai Cymru (argymhelliad 11) – 24 Ionawr 2013

2.1 Jocelyn Davies declared an interest as the former Deputy Minister for Housing and did not participate in the discussions.

2.2 The Chair invited the Auditor General for Wales to advise the Committee on the Welsh Government’s response to the report ‘Progress in delivering the Welsh Housing Quality Standard’.

2.3 Members discussed the advice and agreed to take further evidence from the Welsh Government, including written evidence.

Neil Frow, Cyfarwyddwr, Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru

Mark Roscrow, Cyfarwyddwr Cynorthwyol Gwasanaethau Caffael, Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru

Adele Cahill, Arweinydd Prosiect, Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru

3.1 The Chair welcomed Neil Frow, Director, NHS Shared Services Partnership; Mark Roscrow, Assistant Director Procurement Services, NHS Shared Services Partnership; and Adele Cahill, Project Lead, NHS Shared Services Partnership.

3.2 The Committee questioned the witnesses.

Action points:

NHS Shared Services Partnership agreed to provide:

·         Further information on the reduction of non-pay expenditure in a range of specific areas of NHS procurement;

·         Clarification on how the consultancy self-assessment toolkit is used within the NHS; and

·         Examples of where NHS bodies have used secondments and the sharing of staff (such as quantity surveyors) to effectively reduce their dependency on consultancy services.

Michael Hearty, Cyfarwyddwr Cyffredinol  - Cynllunio Strategol, Cyllid a Pherfformiad
Alison Standfast, Dirprwy Gyfarwyddwr, Caffael, Gwerth Cymru

4.1 The Chair welcomed Michael Hearty, Director General - Strategic Planning, Finance & Performance; Alison Standfast, Deputy Director, Procurement Value Wales; and Kerry Wilson, Head of Procurement.

4.2 The Committee scrutinised the witnesses.

Action points:

The Welsh Government agreed to provide:

·         A note on approval controls and the delegation to procurement consultants;

·         A update on savings made by the Managing for Less programme;

·         Further information on costs associated with services provided by Spikes Cavell;

·         Further detail on the consistency and quality of all procurement related data across the public sector, including the methodology (i.e. the fields and requisite characters analysed);

·         The value of tendering exercises made through the government’s existing procurement service;

·         Further information comparing the National Audit Office Consultancy Self-Assessment toolkit to the system currently used by the Welsh Government.

5.1 The Committee noted the minutes of the previous meeting.

7.1 The Committee discussed the evidence received on the Procurement and Management of Consultancy Services and noted that the Committee will next be taking evidence from Cardiff City Council.

Trawsgrifiad o'r cyfarfod.