Cynnwys
Contents

3....... Cyflwyniad, Ymddiheuriadau, Dirprwyon a Datganiadau o Fuddiant
Introduction, Apologies, Substitutions and Declarations of Interest

4....... Papurau i'w Nodi
Papers to Note

4....... Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i Benderfynu Gwahardd y Cyhoedd o’r Cyfarfod
Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to Resolve to Exclude the Public from the Meeting

Cofnodir y trafodion yn yr iaith y llefarwyd hwy ynddi yn y pwyllgor. Yn ogystal, cynhwysir trawsgrifiad o’r cyfieithu ar y pryd. Lle y mae cyfranwyr wedi darparu cywiriadau i’w tystiolaeth, nodir y rheini yn y trawsgrifiad.

The proceedings are reported in the language in which they were spoken in the committee. In addition, a transcription of the simultaneous interpretation is included. Where contributors have supplied corrections to their evidence, these are noted in the transcript.

Aelodau’r pwyllgor yn bresennol
Committee members in attendance

Gareth Bennett
Bywgraffiad|Biography

UKIP Cymru (yn dirprwyo ar ran Michelle Brown)

UKIP Wales (substitute for Michelle Brown)

Yr Arglwydd / Lord Dafydd Elis-Thomas
Bywgraffiad|Biography

Plaid Cymru
The Party of Wales

Huw Irranca-Davies
Bywgraffiad|Biography

Llafur
Labour

David Melding
Bywgraffiad|Biography

Ceidwadwyr Cymreig (Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor)
Welsh Conservatives (Committee Chair)

Swyddogion Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru yn bresennol
National Assembly for Wales officials in attendance

Celyn Cooper

Allgymorth

Outreach

Gwyn Griffiths

Cynghorydd Cyfreithiol
Legal Adviser

Naomi Stocks

Ail Glerc

Second Clerk

Dr Alys Thomas

Y Gwasanaeth Ymchwil
Research Service

Gareth Williams

Clerc
Clerk

Dechreuodd y cyfarfod am 10:00.

The meeting began at 10:00.

Cyflwyniad, Ymddiheuriadau, Dirprwyon a Datganiadau o Fuddiant
Introduction, Apologies, Substitutions and Declarations of Interest

[1] David Melding: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to this meeting of the Interim Committee on Constitutional and Legislative Affairs. I’ve received apologies from Michelle Brown, and I welcome Gareth Bennett to this morning’s meeting as Michelle’s substitute. Can I make the usual housekeeping announcements? We do not expect a routine fire drill, so if you hear the alarm, please follow the instructions of the ushers. Electronic devices please switch at least to ‘silent’. These proceedings will be conducted in Welsh and English. When Welsh is spoken there is a translation on channel 1. Should you be hard of hearing, you can amplify our proceedings on channel 0.

Papurau i'w Nodi
Papers to Note

[2] David Melding: We move then to papers to note. We have a letter from the First Minister to the Secretary of State for Wales regarding the Wales Bill. That’s dated 9 June. There’s also a cross-party letter to the Secretary of State for Wales, again on the Wales Bill, and that’s dated 17 June. Are we happy to note those? Obviously, they’ll inform our discussion and session with various witnesses.

10:01

Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i Benderfynu Gwahardd y Cyhoedd o’r Cyfarfod
Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to Resolve to Exclude the Public from the Meeting

Cynnig:

Motion:

bod y pwyllgor yn penderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 17.42(vi).

that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vi).

Cynigiwyd y cynnig.

Motion moved.

[3] David Melding: We will meet next in public this afternoon at 3.30, when Professor Thomas Glyn Watkin will give evidence. But before then, if I may, I’ll move Standing Order 17.42 that we conduct the rest of this meeting this morning in private, unless any Member objects. I don’t see any Member objecting, so please switch off the broadcasting equipment.

Derbyniwyd y cynnig.
Motion agreed.

Daeth rhan gyhoeddus y cyfarfod i ben am 10:01.
The public part of the meeting ended at 10:01.